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Laura (Llk2612)
Junior Member
Username: Llk2612
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 - 1:25 pm: |       |
Recently I have observed a 3rd and 4th grade physical education class. Throughout the class there was a few misbehaving children. The teacher put them in ‘time out’ in the corner where they sat down and did no activity. The children were practicing soccer passes with a partner, but when their partner was sent to time which meant that ‘well behaved’ child did not have anyone to practice with. How would you correct a child who is misbehaving with out taking away their physical education (active) time?
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Matthew Bassett (Bassett1976)
Junior Member
Username: Bassett1976
Post Number: 9
Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 13, 2008 - 9:49 pm: | |
When I have kids who are misbehaving I try a few things before getting them to time out. First, you can simply stand by them for a while or give them "the look." Then you can have a quick conversation about expectations and what they should be doing. Some of my kids have problems working with their friends as they become off task. I usually go over and say to them something like, I've noticed your not doing what you should be doing. I'm going to give you one more chance to show me that you can work together or I will have you switch partners and those partners will be my choice. This usually helps but I will still use time out when necessary. |
Nick Deloia (Ncd2140)
Junior Member
Username: Ncd2140
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2008 - 6:30 pm: | |
Timeouts are a bad idea for PE students. Some kids want to aviod activity so they might look at this as a reward. They should find another method of punishment. |
dario a. garza (Dsleepy)
Junior Member
Username: Dsleepy
Post Number: 6
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 6:25 am: | |
I agree that there are many other classroom management options besides time outs. However, I believe these time outs are necessary for physical education. Our job as educators is to provide a safe environment where students can learn. If there are students who are a threat to themselves and to others, time-outs are vital to remove the danger and keep the class funtioning properly. It is our job too, to make sure the student in time out understands why he/she is there, and what is needed to go back to class.
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Gerry Cernicky (Pingzing7)
Junior Member
Username: Pingzing7
Post Number: 5
Registered: 8-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2008 - 8:06 am: | |
Giving time-outs can backfire because this may be a great way to get out of PE. And, when in timeout , they can be a distraction by doing "carnival-like gyrations "that can cause loss of control of the class . To take a step back would be to set up a cooperative process from the very begiining that is a social responsibility program. I set up Hellison's Model on the bulletin board and went through the tasks before every first class of the new school year.Then, I took a digital group, class picture,which will b eplaced there for all to see, who is the best at following the model.
From there , if there were a distraction. I calmly , and without losing control of the claass; walk over and gave a digital command in numbers,which correlated to one of the four tasks. If I professionally pointed to the student with digaltalis(four), they left their space read the infraction( Level 3 for example- needs to stay on task , bothering others, needs to follow directions,etc.), and then they came back to the activity.
Now, all of this was a step by step approach , but in the long run , it worked. No loss of class tome and control. If the infraction was repeated, they wrote the infraction in a designated notebook. A third infraction was the same process , but it was sent to the Principal.. Fortunately, I never had to resort to this .In many instances, by being in close proximity helped along with body language(eyes and body positions. And, as a final part of the process, I talked with that student out of the gym. THis really helped because it was non-threatening, and I tried to find ways to include wh really makes them tick, such as, their favoriate activities or find ways why they ae acting out. By being approachable is a great way to open up the communication. |
Chelsea Eshbaugh (Cre7046)
Junior Member
Username: Cre7046
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Monday, April 06, 2009 - 8:09 pm: | |
Time-outs in P.E. have their ups and downs. It is important to keep the students active, but putting them in time-out limits the activity. If a student is acting up you should sit them out for a few minutes then let them come back in. If it keeps happening then they can sit out for the rest of the period, however this doesn't keep them active. It is really up the teacher on what is the best way to handle a child who acts up. But you should never use physical activity as punishment in P.E., this will make the student not want to participate and have them dislike physical activity. |
Emma VanDenburg (Elv7682)
New member
Username: Elv7682
Post Number: 1
Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 07, 2009 - 11:04 am: | |
I would try to avoid time out as much as you can. There will always be the one kid that misbehaves to get time out so he or she doesn't have to do the activity. I would have a different punishment like run around the gym while we finish up the drill. That way the student is still getting physical activity. |
Anthony Paganie (Amp4663)
Junior Member
Username: Amp4663
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 22, 2010 - 9:29 pm: | |
I think that each punishment should fit the individual. For some, taking them out of activity is a reward, whereas for others, it is the worst possible punishment they could receive. Another point to consider is what the other punishments would be. ONe must be careful when punishing a student with additional physical activity. As physical educators, we are already in an uphill battle against inactivity. The last thing we should do is "turn off" children to physical activity by punishing them with certain types of activity. |
Michael J. Roskamp (Roskampm)
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Username: Roskampm
Post Number: 25
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 23, 2010 - 3:09 pm: | |
I believe we can do FAR better than removing a child from activity. It is often the child who will benefit most from remaining active that is sent to time out; the over-active child or the child who does not care to participate. I taught K-8 for 14 years and I can probably count on my fingers the number of times that I felt it was necessary to remove a child from an activity to deal with his/her behavior. Yes, you do have a responsibility to the safety of others, and when you perceive a child's behavior to be a genuine threat to the safety or well-being of others it is important that you remove the threat. However, I think far to often we create excuses for resorting to "time-out", when the reality is that we need to learn to be more effective in managing our students both individually and collectively. I know a few of you may be offended by this last statement, but I have seen far to many cases in my 28 years of experience as a K-8 practitioner and now as a university field supervisor when students are "timed-out" for reasons that are more of a reflection on the ineffectiveness of the teacher than they are on the poor behavior of the student. |
steve acree (Stephenpe)
Senior Member
Username: Stephenpe
Post Number: 130
Registered: 8-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 5:38 am: | |
What world have you been living in the last few years? Im being sarcastic but truthful just the same. I can manage kids as good as anyone but you do understand we have children from all kinds of situations, fetal alchohol, drug babies, abused children (many types) and kids that have never been held accountable at home.
I time out rarely too but to claim ineffectiveness in teachers. Come observe a few places in the "real" world before proclamations like that. |
alan hitchcock (Portageal)
New member
Username: Portageal
Post Number: 1
Registered: 3-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 1:53 pm: | |
i am just a college student but some of things that i have seen working is not just giving students a time out but giving them something to do to reflect on why they are in trouble. A time out only singles a student out. Inward to curve misbehaving you need to have the student think about what to do different next time. not just punish them |
Theresa (Tessbaz)
Junior Member
Username: Tessbaz
Post Number: 4
Registered: 3-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 18, 2011 - 6:44 pm: | |
Been teaching for close to 20 years. Time out is essential, but as for what is being done there and how long a child is there is the biggest contention. Reflection works, but often for elementary school students, that ability to write impedes this process. For indivuals in time out because social issues with another, we set up rules for engagement like must sit across from other student facing him/her. Only one person talks at a time: No interrupting. Use the format of: I feel when you and I want you to . They eventually get it. A nice three minute timer works great. |
