Athletes and PE

Author Message Monkey Unregistered guest Posted on Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:11 pm:        I am a Physical Education teacher as well as a coach. I had an incident a few weeks ago in which 4 athletes in my class skipped PE because they had a game that night. They felt they would be "too exhaused" for their game. What are your feelings about athletes participating in PE on game day? william atlas (Billatlas) Junior Member Username: Billatlas Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:08 am:        In our school there is a policy. If you do not participate in PE for the day, you cannot participate in a game or practice. You must have Administration backing, but if you can't convince the community your class is as important as any other class (and maybe more important in my opinion) you are dead in the water. Trainum Unregistered guest Posted on Monday, June 20, 2005 - 11:20 am:        Athletes should have the same requirements as all other students. I would probably not have them run the mile but if they are in such bad shape that they can't get through class and a game they should not be playing sports. If they skipped my class they would be benched!!!!! Arthur C Unregistered guest Posted on Friday, June 24, 2005 - 5:58 am:        PE class is very important. Students-Athletes should be in good physical shape and the "rigors" of PE class should not affect the future performance of the athlete Jbundrick Unregistered guest Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 7:28 am:        First of all, they would be in trouble with me for skipping my class. They were showing little respect for me or themselves by making that decision. Secondly, I do not excuse them from Pe. If we are running a mile, I would not push them to set a record but a mile should not hurt them if they are an athlete. They could even slow down to a power walk. Joe Bell Unregistered guest Posted on Monday, June 27, 2005 - 10:24 am:        I would like to suggest that a compromise might be in order here. Show the students evidence that participation in an activity early in the day may actually be better for performance than doing nothing. Then modify the activity for those athletes. In other words, if your were weight training and maxing on squats, you might let them work on form or do something else. We've got to get out of this chip on our shoulders mode so that when athletes are through with their careers, they will still enjoy a good PE class. Roy Weymouth Unregistered guest Posted on Wednesday, July 13, 2005 - 11:40 am:        Let's be reasonable, but the athletes should be held accountable by the school and their coach. Some intense PE class activities earlier in the day can adversely affect performance in a game later that day. The importance of the game is also a factor. I don't expect my varsity swimmers to be excused from PE class for our usual dual meets, but I would like them to get a break the day or day before the Sectional or State Meet. Why not allow athletes to take a "day off" with the understanding that they will be be required to make the time up later. As for skipping PE Class, if my Varsity swimmers did that, I would personally bench them and they know that. DJ Cadorette Unregistered guest Posted on Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 2:09 am:        Roy has a good point. Hold students, all students--accountable for behavior. First one must define expectations for participation pre-athletic event days. Administration, Coach and Teachers must be on same page. Athletic Department should establish a policy. Add to student-athlete handbook which parents and students sign. Post policies on web site if possible. Naturally, Principal must approve/be aware of all policies established that has to do with students in his/her school. Stacia E Hale (Staci822) New member Username: Staci822 Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 8:50 am:        If the students choose not to participate in PE, then in my eyes, they have also chose not to participate in the game. Physical education is a curricular course in the school day, and they should be held accountable for attending and participating. Would they give that excuse to an english or math teacher? Anonymous   Posted on Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 5:35 am:        Mr. Monkey.... Are there a lot of politics in your school district? I wholeheartedly agree with the statements of the others about holding the students accountable, but I understand what it is like for that group of students to be the "Principals son" or the "School Committee Presidents daughter." Lots of pressure to do what is right. I always go to a member of administation and let them know of the issue at hand. This will cover you in case any phone calls are made, gives you a forum to express your discomfort in the students choice, and maybe a discipline referral will come out of it. Hope I helped. Let us know what happened. Stacy Binder (Sab1310) Junior Member Username: Sab1310 Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 10:36 am:        I was once one of those highschool athletes that was excused from pe but half the time I participated anyways. It's not fair for those others students to have to participate becuase their not on an athletic team. I completely agree with Stacia pe is a required class and if they are excused from it they are not participating in their required classes. These athletes aren't being excused from english or science but why are they allowed to be excused from pe. I see the point that they have the risk of getting injured in pe but they can be injured walking down the hall way. You need the principal to back you on this one because your going to have the coaches after you if the policy changes. Larry Earnesty (Lee8657) Junior Member Username: Lee8657 Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:34 am:        I believe that all students whether they have a game or not should be required to attend Physical education classes. I feel that Physical education is more important then a game. Physical education should be placed as a mandatory aspect of all athletes day. If a player misses PE they miss the game as well. This should be a policy that is enforced. Kelly Wolfe Unregistered guest Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:38 am:        I think students should participate in Physical education class whether they are an athlete or not. 30-40 minutes of being active is not going to prevent you from performing later in the day. I think that this is just another excuse the students are using to keep from being active. I believe it should be a requirement that all students , athletes or not, must participate in physical education class. Nancy Ferris Unregistered guest Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 2:49 pm:        Firstly, the students showed no respect for you by skipping class, and that behaviour is unacceptable in my opinion. If the students had a problem participating in PE that day, or felt that it would affect their performance that night, they could have discussed with you beforehand. I would agree with Trianum, in that I would probably not have them involved in intense activity. There are several other ways that they could be involved in the lesson, such as warming up, demonstrating stretches, recording results, etc. I do think that you need to compromise with the students in this case, but only when they start to show you some respect by showing up for your class. Michael Tokarek (Mtokarek13) Junior Member Username: Mtokarek13 Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 11:38 am:        I don't think that they should be excused from class simply because they have a game later on that day. If they are athletes then a half hour of should not make them "too" tired for later activity. Matthew Thomas (Mrt8669) Junior Member Username: Mrt8669 Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 1:20 pm:        Although I do believe that student athletes should be given some slack on days that they must participate in a sport, I don't think they should be able to skip the entire class itself. While the regular students work on the subject for that day, the athletes can be doing a light workout that is still keeping them physically active. This way the students are just messing around somewhere else and are still getting in the required amount of physical activity they should be doing in a physical education class. This way the athletes even get sort of a warm up for their sport that day and also can avoid an injury that could possibly occur during physical education. This is the exact way that it was done when I attended high school, and none of the students seemed to mind. The decision was actually up to the student athlete if they wanted to participate in that day's activity and most of the time they didn't want to be left out. Sometimes coaches would even ask for a student to not have to participate for fear of injury before a big game. But I just think that as long as the student is still physically active for as long as the rest of the students are, your job is done for the day. Caitlin Steele (Cos6372) New member Username: Cos6372 Post Number: 1 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 2:45 pm:        Even though sports are important in a lot of schools, I do not think students should be permitted to skip class. School and athletics are too different things and if a student chooses to play sports, they have to be able to participate in what comes first and that is school. Catie O'Connor (Catie) Junior Member Username: Catie Post Number: 2 Registered: 11-2005 Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 4:20 pm:        When I was in high school the football players and basketball players did not have to participate in physical education class on game days. I thought this was very unfair. Instead, they got to sit in the coaches office or locker room and eat or watch films. It made all of the other student's very upset. I feel that athletes should have to work just as hard as the other student's in PE. If anything, maybe coaches, athletes, and teachers should look at physical education class as a warm-up for the athlete's performance later in the day. Education should always come before extracurricular activities. Derek Blyzwick (Blyzz99) Junior Member Username: Blyzz99 Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 9:05 am:        When i went to high school, I played baseball and football and we still had to participate in physical education class even if we had a game that day. I believe that athletes should participate in class, and i would discipline them if they didn't and school is before sports, not the other way around. Cory Mancuso (Wrestler1808) Junior Member Username: Wrestler1808 Post Number: 2 Registered: 3-2006 Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 8:35 pm:        I am an athlete myself and if the student is going to be to exhausted from physical education that it is going to affect his performance on game day then maybe he shouldn't be playing sports. I would hope everyone would never treat an athlete different then other students. The only thing is maybe weight lifting if the students feels that this could effect his/her performance then maybe something else could be provided for the student to participate in during physical education class. Adam Hardin (Adman2510) Junior Member Username: Adman2510 Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2006 Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2006 - 11:32 am:        I was once a student athlete and the days that I had a baseball game or cross country race, I still particapted in my phys. ed. class. Our school had a policy that if you are an athlete and you do not dress for Phys. ed. then you are not allowed to play in you sproting event. I had phys ED. towards the end of the day so I looked at it as a way to get loose and get ready for my cross country race or my baseball game. Trenton Casey (Tac1160) New member Username: Tac1160 Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2006 Posted on Monday, April 03, 2006 - 2:26 pm:        Athletes should still participate in PE class. They should not be exempted from doing the same activities as everyone else. So they should get punished just like every other student would because they are not better than anyone else to skip. Brad Bothell (Brad05) Junior Member Username: Brad05 Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2006 Posted on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 7:59 pm:        I was an athlete in highschool. I played football, baseball, and wrestled. So pretty much all year around i was attending events. I still participated in every one of my PE classes. I do not think it is right that an athlete can be exempted from the activities that are going on that day in class. Carl Weber (Clwebjr) New member Username: Clwebjr Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2006 Posted on Tuesday, October 03, 2006 - 7:37 am:        I agree with many of your postings. However, I need some type of documentation to back this up. Does anyone know of any sites or articles that may be useful Ben James Whitten (Bjw5711) Junior Member Username: Bjw5711 Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:20 am:        I agree that the athletes should still participate in PE class regardless if they have a game or meet that day. They are Student Athletes, classes come first. They chose to be an athlete, if they can’t handle participating in PE class when they have a game or meet then they should rethink doing a sport. michael p spanos (Mps5007) Junior Member Username: Mps5007 Post Number: 3 Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 7:04 pm:        I know when I was in high school my first three years all students had to have a PE class. My senior year the school board changed these rules and said varsity athletes no longer had to have a PE class. Since I was a varsity athlete I think those students should be reprimanded because PE never wore me out so much I was not able to perform in a game later in the day. Jason Leonard (Jasonleonard) New member Username: Jasonleonard Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 4:37 am:        I think that this is something to consider on almost a case to case basis. When I was in high school we had morning and afternoon practice for cross country so we were running a ton of miles and doing alot of upper body and abs stuff. Anything we would of done in PE would have taken away from our season or risked injury. We were excused and the teachers enforced not even letting us play if we had wanted to. Some sports that do alot should fall into that catergorey. Ryan Butschle (Ryan_butschle) Junior Member Username: Ryan_butschle Post Number: 4 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 9:35 am:        Ive known athletes in my highschool that would skip PE because they felt as if they just didn't need it. Yeah your an athlete but school still comes first. It is still required that you attend classes and no favoritism should be shown at all. I was an athlete in high school and the only reason i would skip out on a class is if i had an early release for a game. Plus if your an athlete and sports is what you like, then why would you want to skip PE?? tim sullivan (Tsullivan) New member Username: Tsullivan Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2009 Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 12:06 pm:        Empower the students / athlete! if he/she excels at the physical component, allow the student-athlete too (as well as the whole), create an activity explain it to the class and have fun! tim sullivan (Tsullivan) Junior Member Username: Tsullivan Post Number: 2 Registered: 8-2009 Posted on Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 7:27 pm:        after a full read on "monkeys" post on why the athletes wanted to skip out on class. You just need to tell the athlete and coaches to look at any professional sport and they all practice the day of a game i.e. shoot arounds, batting practice, pre-game skates etc.... these coaches seem limited in their PE education. Not to treat high school athlete like pro athletes but it's a starting point to point too. Gina Mahouski (Gmahouski) Junior Member Username: Gmahouski Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2010 Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 6:33 am:        I think these athletes need to embrace the time in physical education as a warm-up before their game. Not only that but it seems as though their attitudes are not in the right place. Some of my worst PE students, attitude and behavior wise, have been athletes. Shawn Bean (Sbean) Junior Member Username: Sbean Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2010 Posted on Saturday, February 06, 2010 - 6:30 am:        I can understand the frustration of this problem. I believe a lot of this has to do with the perception of PE. If the PE classes have never been looked at as an academic class for whatever reason, then you can understand why those athletes think it's ok to skip out on your class. I think the perception of a Physical Education teacher has to adjusted. That starts with the administration support of your department. It certainly isn't right that they want to skip class. I have the same issues at my high school. I am trying hard to change that perception. Thanks and good luck! Nathan Shadeck (Nathan) New member Username: Nathan Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2010 Posted on Monday, February 08, 2010 - 9:17 am:        I think that athletes participating in PE should embrace it. I use to use the class as an extra workout. I understand that, depending on the activity and it's demands, that there could be an exception to this, but most Physical Educators were athletes themselves and would understand if there was a championship game or something that day. But for the most part, and extra work out will do nothing but help the athlete as long as they are getting the proper rest and nutrition.

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